Yates: Ride or Die...for now

bonham said:
This.

First thing you need out of a QB is smart decision making and ball protection. Yates has it. Several times yesterday, I saw Yates throw passes out of bounds when there simply wasn't anything there. Sims would have tried to force those same passes and they would be INTs.
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I expect to win. If Yates gets us there, fine. I also don't believe that Sims should be judged on one half of football. And yes, I know he played last season, bit last season was a train wreck on both LOS's
 
BackstreetBuzz said:
We need for Sims to win the QB job. Yates is a smart, steady QB. Sims has the potential to be great. I would bring Sims in for one play at a time for now, let him run the ball or throw deep, then bring Yates back in.
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Congratulations. You just argued for playing Matthew Stafford over Tom Brady if we apply your logic.
 
helluvaparamedic said:
One bad half of football? He has a cumulative body of work 1:1 TD to Interception ratio with 6 fumbles last season and to start this season he went 2/8 passing and a fumble.
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QBs don't play by themselves

Put any of the Highly Rated QBs behind last year's OLine, give them the same unproductive TEs that we have on our Roster, then compare them to Sims

Sims had 5 - 6 Int's from tipped passes due to the pass rush being in his lap due to poor blocking, Yates hasn't been behind an OLine that bad yet, and Sims did this as a True Fr

It is easy for Yates to seem like a "great decision maker" by throwing passes out of bounds because Clemson has a poor offense, do you want to Yates to keep throwing passes OoB when we have to punt it back to a hot QB and a hot Offense?

Trying to force the action isn't always "bad decision making" by the QB, in some cases it gives yo the best chance to win
 
daBuzz said:
Congratulations. You just argued for playing Matthew Stafford over Tom Brady if we apply your logic.
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Tom Brady has every bit as strong of an arm as Stafford. Maybe not in his old man body, but I watched Brady warm up a decade or so ago pregame. He was leisurely throwing the ball 65 yards pregame to a WR.
 
daBuzz said:
Congratulations. You just argued for playing Matthew Stafford over Tom Brady if we apply your logic.
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Excuse me Sir

Yates ain't Tom Brady

Yates played well vs KSU , and then couldn't get us in the EZ vs Clemson, if Clemson has their normal offense and scores 38 or so points, burning clock on offense and dinking & dunking wouldn't have made you happy and no one would lauding his game management
 
GoldenIsle said:
We have no vertical game with Yates. The defenses will continue to bring the house.
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NO quarterback we had run out there was going to have time to throw deep versus Clemson. That's the best defensive line we will face until the last game of the year. So the vertical threat argument is foolish.

I don't care which QB plays as long as they make good decisions...Yates certainly did that yesterday and has shown similar the past 2.x games he's played. My knock against Sims is his inaccuracy, missing wide open receivers multiple times in the NIU game...at which point, arm strength is useless. Also, I saw Yates scramble and stay behind the LOS multiple times yesterday and going to his 2nd, 3rd or checkdown receiver...and running when necessary. If Sims can do that equally as well and throw as accurately, I agree he should get the job.

As for the argument about people shouldn't lose their job when they get hurt, I suggest you read a story about one guy named Lou Gehrig and Wally Pipp.
 
PressManCoverage said:
QBs don't play by themselves

Put any of the Highly Rated QBs behind last year's OLine, give them the same unproductive TEs that we have on our Roster, then compare them to Sims

Sims had 5 - 6 Int's from tipped passes due to the pass rush being in his lap due to poor blocking, Yates hasn't been behind an OLine that bad yet, and Sims did this as a True Fr

It is easy for Yates to seem like a "great decision maker" by throwing passes out of bounds because Clemson has a poor offense, do you want to Yates to keep throwing passes OoB when we have to punt it back to a hot QB and a hot Offense?

Trying to force the action isn't always "bad decision making" by the QB, in some cases it gives yo the best chance to win
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Correct. I'm amazed how quickly we have written off a QB with the physical stature and tools of Sims. If we are going next level, we need a next level QB.
 
JJacket said:
Tom Brady has every bit as strong of an arm as Stafford. Maybe not in his old man body, but I watched Brady warm up a decade or so ago pregame. He was leisurely throwing the ball 65 yards pregame to a WR.
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That's the dumbest thing I've read. Brady has never been known as having a strong arm. It's one of the main reasons he dropped to the 6th round of the draft.
About a month before the Patriots made their franchise-altering draft pick, the University of Michigan quarterback took part in the NFL Scouting Combine. Brady didn't wow teams with his arm strength or athleticism. In fact, his 5.24-second 40-time was pretty awful.
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PressManCoverage said:
Excuse me Sir

Yates ain't Tom Brady

Yates played well vs KSU , and then couldn't get us in the EZ vs Clemson, if Clemson has their normal offense and scores 38 or so points, burning clock on offense and dinking & dunking wouldn't have made you happy and no one would lauding his game management
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Oh wow. Yates couldn't get us in the end zone vs Clemson. Guess UGA better sit their QB too...they didn't make the end zone.

LOLOLOL
 
JJacket said:
Correct. I'm amazed how quickly we have written off a QB with the physical stature and tools of Sims. If we are going next level, we need a next level QB.
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There's an old joke about Dan Pastorini when he played for the Houston Oilers.

Oilers fan: "We have a QB who can stand flat footed and throw a ball 7 stories, straight up"
Cowboys fan: "Yeah but your receiver was on the 3rd floor"
 
daBuzz said:
That's the dumbest thing I've read. Brady has never been known as having a strong arm. It's one of the main reasons he dropped to the 6th round of the draft.

www.nbcsports.com

Tom Brady's pre-NFL Draft scouting report will never cease to be funny

Former New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady had plenty of motivation to be great before he slid to the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft. On this day in 2000, the Patriots selected Brady with the 199th overall pick. He was the seventh quarterback taken in the 2000 draft. Download the...
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Again, I have watched Brady warm up. He has an easy throwing motion that may make it appear he doesn't have a strong arm. Like I said, since you have difficulty reading and comprehending, Brady was throwing warm up tosses 65 yards in pregame about a decade or so ago. Guarantee you Fat Stafford doesn't throw a ball further.

Those same genius scouts got the GOAT QB picked in the 6th round
 
daBuzz said:
There's an old joke about Dan Pastorini when he played for the Houston Oilers.

Oilers fan: "We have a QB who can stand flat footed and throw a ball 7 stories, straight up"
Cowboys fan: "Yeah but your receiver was on the 3rd floor"
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The Cowboys is the joke?
 
daBuzz said:
NO quarterback we had run out there was going to have time to throw deep versus Clemson. That's the best defensive line we will face until the last game of the year. So the vertical threat argument is foolish.

I don't care which QB plays as long as they make good decisions...Yates certainly did that yesterday and has shown similar the past 2.x games he's played. My knock against Sims is his inaccuracy, missing wide open receivers multiple times in the NIU game...at which point, arm strength is useless. Also, I saw Yates scramble and stay behind the LOS multiple times yesterday and going to his 2nd, 3rd or checkdown receiver...and running when necessary. If Sims can do that equally as well and throw as accurately, I agree he should get the job.

As for the argument about people shouldn't lose their job when they get hurt, I suggest you read a story about one guy named Lou Gehrig and Wally Pipp.
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I read that story and Pipp wasn't injured - he went to the Mgr and asked for a day off and the rest is History

Sims didn't ask for a weird elbow injury vs NIL, huge difference, but I get your gist

Gotta get more accurate contextually
 
The Champ said:
Yates is accurate, if he had a little more arm strength he’d be a great passer. Seems to throw flat footed or leaning back a lot, doesn’t really get his body into it, so maybe he can get more zip with a little coaching on mechanics
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Seems to throw running for his life also
 
daBuzz said:
That's the dumbest thing I've read. Brady has never been known as having a strong arm. It's one of the main reasons he dropped to the 6th round of the draft.

www.nbcsports.com

Tom Brady's pre-NFL Draft scouting report will never cease to be funny

Former New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady had plenty of motivation to be great before he slid to the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft. On this day in 2000, the Patriots selected Brady with the 199th overall pick. He was the seventh quarterback taken in the 2000 draft. Download the...
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
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It’s not that they’re ignorant, they just know so many things that just aren’t so.
 
daBuzz said:
That's the dumbest thing I've read. Brady has never been known as having a strong arm. It's one of the main reasons he dropped to the 6th round of the draft.

www.nbcsports.com

Tom Brady's pre-NFL Draft scouting report will never cease to be funny

Former New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady had plenty of motivation to be great before he slid to the sixth round of the 2000 NFL Draft. On this day in 2000, the Patriots selected Brady with the 199th overall pick. He was the seventh quarterback taken in the 2000 draft. Download the...
www.nbcsports.com www.nbcsports.com
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JJ is an internet jackass who douches up every thread. Tom Brady having the same arm at Matt Stafford is laughable.
 
daBuzz said:
Oh wow. Yates couldn't get us in the end zone vs Clemson. Guess UGA better sit their QB too...they didn't make the end zone.

LOLOLOL
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That was a different game

Unrelated to our Game

I don't care what other Teams do with their QB

What we saw was low ceiling offense characterized by milking the clock on offense, throwing underneath most of the time and throwing almost all passes outside the numbers to play it safe

We played as if we were trying to keep it close for a Fragile fanbase rather than throwing caution to wind and trying to do some thing special and win the game

Maybe a few deep throws result in a DPI and good field position and loosens them up on D.

Maybe some up Tempo gasses their DL and that pass rush wanes late in the game and we start scoring easily in the 4th qtr

We'll never know cause everyone is so happy that looked we respectable while we lost, people seem a little TOO happy that our QB had zero TDs as long as that also meant zero Int's

There's a million ways for a Game to unfold than the close to vest - lose respectable strategy
 
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