Coffee is for Closers Paul!

GTJackets530 said:
1. We have 14, potentially as many as 16.

2. We only had about 16-17 scholarships available. Are you advocating that we should have signed 25 this year? And if so, please list the 8+ players on our current roster we should have pulled scholarships from in February.
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We had 16, then we had two guys decide not to come back for their 5th year. I'm sure there will be one more transfer of some sort along the way. We could've safely taken 18 and stretched with 19.
 
TechPhi97 said:
We had 16, then we had two guys decide not to come back for their 5th year. I'm sure there will be one more transfer of some sort along the way. We could've safely taken 18 and stretched with 19.
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if we would have gotten Lawson, elder, and Mitchell we would be at 17.. then again we probably would have dropped ty soooo.. ya.. could have picked up a couple more for sure
 
BarrelORum said:
If I'm a black kid in the south, Atlanta is a whole lot more attractive than Oxford Mississippi.

At least if we can't sell that, then we suck, and apparently we suck because we don't even understand the fundamental advantages of our school, and that's the God öööö problem!
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This has been the old adage for years and you couldn't be more wrong about this. While I agree that our recruiting can and should be better, I am not going to let this one year discourage me too much. It's not like we are getting boatraced out there week in and week out. If we beat Utah in the bowl game and beat VT and Miami this past season, then that puts us at 9 wins for the past two seasons. I think we would all be fine with that.

Recruits want to go to schools that are in the most competitive conferences with the most exposure they can get. They want to play in 80,000+ seat stadiums where they are gods to everyone on campus. They want to go to places that have easy academics and good looking women running all over campus.

GT doesn't meet any of the requirements above. Trust me, selling "Atlanta" is not as much of a positive as you might think.
 
yellowbritchies said:
wesley I'm not sure the entire class is a joke, however our headcoach and his TO is, and that's the problem!
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:rotfl:

It still just slays me that people are claiming that such a productive offense is a joke. Whenever something doesn't go perfect for Georgia tech football: "It's that öööö HS offense!" Low hanging (if often misguided) fruit I suppose.
 
85jacket said:
TECH is a tough sale to the average kid. TECH is an engineering school. Next time you are around some kids in your family ask how many want to study technology. There are few and far between. Now just for fun find kids that are great athletes and want to study Technology and you are down to probably 50-100 a year across the nation. I know TECH has a business school; however, you still have to take two semesters of calculus. When I was at TECH everyone had to take Physics and Chemistry as well. Very tough classes that a kid at Georgia or Ole Miss will never have to take.
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Physics yes, chemistry no.

And there are some degree offerings which do not require the standard calculus anymore, though I am not positive of which ones.

bonham said:
Nobody is saying this class doesn't have a few impact players.

But the overall quality of it sucks. I don't understand how anybody can defend this horrid recruiting effort.
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I am not all that discouraged by the talent of the individual players in this class. I think we got some good players who will fill positions of need. I am as excited about Custis as I have been of any RB signed by Paul.

My frustration comes from once again failing to fill our limit of scholarships and handing out leftovers to walk ons. The coaching staff has to get a better grip on knowing the team and how many defections it will have and knowing how solid these "commitments" are and how to make sure we aren't left holding an empty bag on NSD.
 
GoTech19 said:
We aren't an SEC team, therefore we aren't allowed to get 30 commitments and then grey shirt or let loose ten of them.
When was the last time an SEC school had to let someone out of their commitment due to the inability to even qualify academically?
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I realize we are not an SEC team but, in pure numbers how many ACC other team classes over the years are as low in numbers as ours.
 
According to scout.com, we are ranked 42nd if you sort by "average stars" which is about where we are every year. We get severely punished by the recruiting services this year since we have only 14 signees. They factor up to 25 players into their formula so that is 11 players that we aren't getting "points" for. That will lead to huge discrepancies in the rankings.
 
scatman22 said:
According to scout.com, we are ranked 42nd if you sort by "average stars" which is about where we are every year. We get severely punished by the recruiting services this year since we have only 14 signees. They factor up to 25 players into their formula so that is 11 players that we aren't getting "points" for. That will lead to huge discrepancies in the rankings.
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Argggh, too much logic hurts my head! It's more fun to be butthurt and wrong
 
scatman22 said:
according to scout.com, we are ranked 42nd if you sort by "average stars" which is about where we are every year. We get severely punished by the recruiting services this year since we have only 14 signees. They factor up to 25 players into their formula so that is 11 players that we aren't getting "points" for. That will lead to huge discrepancies in the rankings.
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yay!!! Lets be average!
 
GTland03 said:
yay!!! Lets be average!
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When the claim is that this is a below average class, pointing out that it is in fact average by some metrics is usually considered a good point of emphasis.
 
AlabamaBuzz said:
Right now, I don't know how PJ turns the recruiting ship around quickly enough not to see the door, but I will be pulling for my alma mater either way.
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If Tech fires CPJ next year, everyone will say that the next coach only won with CPJ's players, when, in fact, CPJ would have also won with those players, exactly like Chan would have won with his 2007 and 2008 classes.

CPJ is showing changes and adjustments, as have been documented many times before. The two latest coaching hires have obviously emphasized recruiting prowess. Nine wins this year, and a few 4* defensive players next year, and Tech will be just fine.
 
Ish said:
HMMM.....looks like this class beats every single Gailey class except the 2007 one.

Average stars year to year:
2013: 2.71
2012: 3.00
2011: 2.91
2010: 3.17
2009: 2.90
2008: 2.65
2007: 3.30
2006: 2.69
2005: 2.37
2004: 2.21
2003: 2.67
2002: 2.88
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I factored in that we had 4 more scholarships to give and we didn't get there. When you look at it from that perspective, its bad.
 
gtpkt said:
Your argument lost all its salt after that line.

I agree that the recruiting NEEDS to get better, but that's trivializing the problem. It's the same type of simplistic troll-like argument that plague sports discussions.
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And you probably know nothing about sales and have never had to sell yourself or your company. Like I said, blinder engineer types need not comment.
 
BarrelORum said:
Holy öööö I could do this its that easy. We don't have a closer in this whole öööö staff!
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then go fix our recruiting instead of spitting your garbage all over the forums. let us know when you join so we can tell you how you're doing.
 
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