Article: No MNCs ever again

TampaBayJacket said:
I dont. We might have a guy that gets drafted in the next couple of years but we had none drafted this year and only a 7th round kicker last year so I'm fairly certain there is not a whole lot of NFL-level talent on the roster right now. Regardless, it's more of what I'm trying to say is our talent level is so vastly different than the top teams that we wouldn't have a chance at qualifying and/or winning a game at that level. At some point talent matters and folks around here seem to think CPJ has magic fairy dust that could let us run circles around Bama's defense. I say all this as if I'm disappointed but I'm not. I'm quite okay with 8-4 or 7-5 seasons as long as we have the occasional 9-10 win season when everything bounces our way (e.g. 2014) and we beat UGA every few years. CPJ has the same amount of wins against UGA as O'Leary so he has to be considered an elite coach in that respect.
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CPJ has averaged 2 drafted per year - just like we’ve done since 2000.
 
TampaBayJacket said:
I dont. We might have a guy that gets drafted in the next couple of years but we had none drafted this year and only a 7th round kicker last year so I'm fairly certain there is not a whole lot of NFL-level talent on the roster right now. Regardless, it's more of what I'm trying to say is our talent level is so vastly different than the top teams that we wouldn't have a chance at qualifying and/or winning a game at that level. At some point talent matters and folks around here seem to think CPJ has magic fairy dust that could let us run circles around Bama's defense. I say all this as if I'm disappointed but I'm not. I'm quite okay with 8-4 or 7-5 seasons as long as we have the occasional 9-10 win season when everything bounces our way (e.g. 2014) and we beat UGA every few years. CPJ has the same amount of wins against UGA as O'Leary so he has to be considered an elite coach in that respect.
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So you admit you don’t know what you're talking about. Glad we got that cleared up.
 
GT flunkout said:
This is true. 1998 was every bit the same high as 2014.



To claim conspiracy and that UCF wasn't selected because they are UCF is ridiculous. UCF did not get selected for the same reason that Wisconsin didn't get selected. If UCF had beaten Auburn in the regular season it would have been something completely different.

There is nothing to suggest that political clout or TV drawing power has anything to do with playoff selection. Guess what? It's been proven that an all-SEC Championship means garbage TV ratings. Do you really think the rest of the country wants to see Georgia and Alabama play for the national championship? I'm not even defending the system because I think it's crap and it should be made up of conference champions.

There are lots of ways to bigcry the
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TampaBayJacket said:
Explain how a team of zero NFL players can run the table of UGA, ACCCG, CFP Team #1, CFP Team #2 (with one of the CFP teams Alabama)? I like your positive vibes but man I just cant fathom how you can envision it happening. The CFB landscape is quite different now than it was 30-40 years ago. It seems like maybe only 6 or 7 teams in the country have a shot at the title with everyone else playing for a bowl game.
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What he said. Plus, it is just asinine and funny AF to be getting worked up because someone pissed in our cornflakes about the national championship when we can't beat six or seven teams in our conference on a consistent basis.
 
Yukonwreck said:
Plus, it is just asinine and funny AF to be getting worked up because someone pissed in our cornflakes about the national championship when we can't beat six or seven teams in our conference on a consistent basis.
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The analysis supporting the conclusion is complete nonsense.

If you had conducted that analysis 10 years ago, the conclusion would have been that Alabama would never win another Natty because they got curb stomped by Florida and Utah.

So the premise of the argument is that if you aren't good today, you will never be good. And you find any objection to such a premise to be funny AF. I think accepting the argument, deeply flawed as it is, is as dumb AF.
 
00Burdell said:
The analysis supporting the conclusion is complete nonsense.

If you had conducted that analysis 10 years ago, the conclusion would have been that Alabama would never win another Natty because they got curb stomped by Florida and Utah.

So the premise of the argument is that if you aren't good today, you will neverver be good. And you find any objection to such a premise to be funny AF. I think accepting the argument, deeply flawed as it is, is as dumb AF.
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When the preseason top twenty-five listings come out, no team not listed in the top 25 will play in the CFP tournament. It isn't like years ago when a non-ranked team could go on a run, garner votes week by week, and become the champion. Every win, and every loss is analyzed, the strength of schedule is dissected, even the strength of schedule of your opponents is factored in. There is no way to get into the mix, starting out at #38 Week One. I'm the guy that admires Tech's ability to defy the norm and win in for of five era's over the last century. I completely agree with you saying if your team wasn't good 25 years ago, they will never be good again is ridiculous. But that is not what the article was about. It was silly for the writer to write us off because of our present coach, scheme, and recruiting. But most of the points made about us and the others(Minnesota, Michigan State, Syracuse, Maryland, Colorado, UT) were not outrageous. FWIW, I don't think Nebraska, Notre Dame, Arkansas, UCLA or Texas A&M have much chance either. As long as there are Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, Auburn, Miami, Southern Cal, Penn State lurking in the top ten, most others' chances are limited.
 
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Yukonwreck said:
As long as there are Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, Auburn, Miami, Southern Cal, Penn State lurking in the top ten, most others' chances are limited.
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Can't disagree with that statement. Another statement I can't disagree with is that the list of teams in that statement won't be in that statement five years out just as most of them weren't in it five years ago.

Who on earth would have thought that Penn St. would ever come back from the post-Pederno (misspelling intentional) disaster? Its just so easy to write programs off and it gives the writer a sense of authority but, in college football, its impossible to stay on top for very long. So many teams that seem like they were going to be good forever just vanish - Texas, F$U, LSU, USCw to name a few. When those teams exit stage left, somebody is going to take their place and for anyone to say that certain teams are permanently excluded from ever moving in to one of the vacated spots at the top is retarded.

Look at our schedule this year - only one foregone loss and that is Clemson. Uga's roster was gutted but they look like the 2nd toughest right now. Every other game is winnable. Even if we lost to Clemson, we can still go to the ACCCG and play them again. What if we luck up and win. What if a few other awesome teams fall flat - Bama loses three games or something.

I don't understand how any of this is completely impossible. Unlikely? Very. But a long, long way from "never gonna happen."
 
Yukonwreck said:
When the preseason top twenty-five listings come out, no team not listed in the top 25 will play in the CFP tournament. It isn't like years ago when a non-ranked team could go on a run, garner votes week by week, and become the champion.
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If we go undefeated, then regardless of our preseason ranking we will go to the playoff. I am not saying its likely, but the above statement is wrong.
 
covingtonjacket said:
If we go undefeated, then regardless of our preseason ranking we will go to the playoff. I am not saying its likely, but the above statement is wrong.
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Of course.
Even with 1 loss and an ACC title, it would be likely. We have the toughest schedule in the ACC and one of the 10 toughest in the country. We will have beaten so many ranked teams by the end of the season, its silly to argue we wouldnt shoot up the rankings. We made it from unranked preseason all the way to the brink of the top 10 (prior to the bowl game) in 2014...with 3 losses.
 
TampaBayJacket said:
Explain how a team of zero NFL players can run the table of UGA, ACCCG, CFP Team #1, CFP Team #2 (with one of the CFP teams Alabama)? I like your positive vibes but man I just cant fathom how you can envision it happening. The CFB landscape is quite different now than it was 30-40 years ago. It seems like maybe only 6 or 7 teams in the country have a shot at the title with everyone else playing for a bowl game.
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That is a softball. The college game is different than the Pro's. Talent helps, but it is team talent that matters the most.
 
It is weird how everyone was so dissatisfied with 7 win seasons under CCG, even though we never had losing seasons, because we never had big seasons. Now under CPJ, there are people dissatisfied with the highs-and-lows. I guess no fanbase is completely happy this offseason except Alabama.
 
It is going to be very difficult for us to make it all the way. One of the issues we have and perhaps our biggest downfall is depth. It can be done but will certainly need to be a perfect scenario.
 
I keep hearing about how UGa's roster was gutted. We didn't compete with them last year at all. I'm reasonable sure that their second team probably would have beaten us. Outside of them contracting the injury bug or TQM turning into Justin Thomas I don't hold much hope that we'll compete this year either. Just to beat everyone to it :bigcry:
 
cyclejacket said:
I keep hearing about how UGa's roster was gutted. We didn't compete with them last year at all. I'm reasonable sure that their second team probably would have beaten us. Outside of them contracting the injury bug or TQM turning into Justin Thomas I don't hold much hope that we'll compete this year either. Just to beat everyone to it :bigcry:
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They had 32 seniors on their team last year and a decade of top ten recruiting classes. How was their roster gutted and who are you hearing this from?
 
DressCheeseSideSeaboard said:
They had 32 seniors on their team last year and a decade of top ten recruiting classes. How was their roster gutted and who are you hearing this from?
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The latest was 00Burdell just a few posts above this one - "
Look at our schedule this year - only one foregone loss and that is Clemson. Uga's roster was gutted but they look like the 2nd toughest right now. Every other game is winnable. Even if we lost to Clemson, we can still go to the ACCCG and play them again. What if we luck up and win. What if a few other awesome teams fall flat - Bama loses three games or something."

Some of the other threads have several mentions that UGa is vulnerable for us because of their massive eligibility losses. Since we've lost to them about 75% of the time in my lifetime I am skeptical of any proclamation that they are a winnable game on our schedule.
 
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