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smokey_wasp said:
Oliver was never going to be a realistic option for the new offense at QB. Mason was a nice piece to have back, but again, objectively, our returning production was among the worst.

So, you made me look it up. Here's Bill Connely's take in 2019:
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2019 CFB returning production, ranked a better way

The teams at the top of this list are likely to improve, recent history shows. Let’s go deeper than returning starter counts.
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119th out of 130 FBS teams. And that's with a lot of that production no longer even applicable in the new offense AND completely changing blocking schemes.
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How much of that is just switching schemes from a 30 to 11 package?
 
If you don't already know, you're dense and need help but I'll put it here anyway.

We shoved a toilet brush in our keister when we didn't land or even try for Monken, especially after we saw what was available to us. Because of our decision, as others have said, we are gonna have to see Collins out to the end regardless of good/bad/uglier than now.

May as well support the experiment because there is at least 3 years left to see how it resolves. Unless of course you're that booster who loaded up on TSLA sub $100 and want to start making generous contributions.
 
gambler said:
If you don't already know, you're dense and need help but I'll put it here anyway.

We shoved a toilet brush in our keister when we didn't land or even try for Monken, especially after we saw what was available to us. Because of our decision, as others have said, we are gonna have to see Collins out to the end regardless of good/bad/uglier than now.

May as well support the experiment because there is at least 3 years left to see how it resolves. Unless of course you're that booster who loaded up on TSLA sub $100 and want to start making generous contributions.
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HS HCs and HS Recruits in GA weren't going to return any of Monken's phone calls if he stepped in after CPJ left.

We hire Monken, no McGowan, no Gibbs, no Sims, neither of the 2 T-Fr WRs that got injured sign with us, and we still have a bunch of A-Backs(whatever those are) and undersized OLs on the Roster.

The way the entire Program was trending under the "Original"(CPJ), nothing better was going to come from a clone or lesser knock-off of CPJ(aka Monken).

If Monken was "that Guy", explain why USC, FSU, LSU, TCU, and any other Job that comes open isn't beating his door down?

CPJ legacy is that every Asst. from his Coaching Tree has a very low ceiling because CPJ never adapted to modern P5 CFB, now no matter how good and deserving Monken is, NO AD in any P5 Conference with trust any CPJ Asst with their School's FB Program due to the mess that CPJ left GT FB in.

No matter how much you scream for Monken, no AD(unless he's nearing Retirement anyway) is hiring Monken at a P5 College.

The conventional wisdom is that if Minnesota can find a PJ Fleck, and Iowa State can find a Matt Campbell, there's no reason to ever risk running the Teflon Option at your University.

You only have 3 choices:

  1. HSs that don't have the Talent to compete
  2. Service Academy FB
  3. Ga Southern that is now losing to GA State half the time despite having a 35 yr head start on them

Those are your only choices to watch dirty, diving at the opponents knees, cut blocking (albeit legal), boring FB

Have at it.

Can someone start to explain why GT has so many Fans that love a FB system instead of their School's GT FB Team?
 
PressManCoverage said:
HS HCs and HS Recruits in GA weren't going to return any of Monken's phone calls if he stepped in after CPJ left.

We hire Monken, no McGowan, no Gibbs, no Sims, neither of the 2 T-Fr WRs that got injured sign with us, and we still have a bunch of A-Backs(whatever those are) and undersized OLs on the Roster.

The way the entire Program was trending under the "Original"(CPJ), nothing better was going to come from a clone or lesser knock-off of CPJ(aka Monken).

If Monken was "that Guy", explain why USC, FSU, LSU, TCU, and any other Job that comes open isn't beating his door down?

CPJ legacy is that every Asst. from his Coaching Tree has a very low ceiling because CPJ never adapted to modern P5 CFB, now no matter how good and deserving Monken is, NO AD in any P5 Conference with trust any CPJ Asst with their School's FB Program due to the mess that CPJ left GT FB in.

No matter how much you scream for Monken, no AD(unless he's nearing Retirement anyway) is hiring Monken at a P5 College.

The conventional wisdom is that if Minnesota can find a PJ Fleck, and Iowa State can find a Matt Campbell, there's no reason to ever risk running the Teflon Option at your University.

You only have 3 choices:

  1. HSs that don't have the Talent to compete
  2. Service Academy FB
  3. Ga Southern that is now losing to GA State half the time despite having a 35 yr head start on them

Those are your only choices to watch dirty, diving at the opponents knees, cut blocking (albeit legal), boring FB

Have at it.

Can someone start to explain why GT has so many Fans that love a FB system instead of their School's GT FB Team?
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Because factory fanbase don’t want the option and want the 5-star recruits. Nor do their boosters.
 
GTCrew4b said:
Because factory fanbase don’t want the option and want the 5-star recruits. Nor do their boosters.
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Exactly this, but I have always wondered why a clever coach hasn't built in some "trick" plays which are essentially option plays. Come out, run 5 plays or so, get the defense in a tizzy, return to your regular offense after they start adjusting.
It would be like putting a wildcat package in. Put in a few special OL, a wildcat QB

I seem to remember we did something similar in the Gator Bowl against ND. Seems like Fridge had some different option wrinkles for that game to keep ND off balance
 
JJacket said:
Exactly this, but I have always wondered why a clever coach hasn't built in some "trick" plays which are essentially option plays. Come out, run 5 plays or so, get the defense in a tizzy, return to your regular offense after they start adjusting.
It would be like putting a wildcat package in. Put in a few special OL, a wildcat QB

I seem to remember we did something similar in the Gator Bowl against ND. Seems like Fridge had some different option wrinkles for that game to keep ND off balance
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Damn near every college football team runs some option plays.
 
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knoxjacket said:
Damn near every college football team runs some option plays.
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They run that stupid wildcat where a RB takes the snap and tries to find somewhere to run. I'm also not talking about a pistol RPO. I am talking pure option. Either a 3-O, wing T, wishbone. Change the blocking assignments.

If we were to catch a team in our dreaded 3-3-5 alignment, they would look silly. We run some 3-O, wishbone, wing T, until they adjust then we go back to a pro set.
 
JJacket said:
Exactly this, but I have always wondered why a clever coach hasn't built in some "trick" plays which are essentially option plays. Come out, run 5 plays or so, get the defense in a tizzy, return to your regular offense after they start adjusting.
It would be like putting a wildcat package in. Put in a few special OL, a wildcat QB

I seem to remember we did something similar in the Gator Bowl against ND. Seems like Fridge had some different option wrinkles for that game to keep ND off balance
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I remember Moo U running an option play against us in the Urnge Bowl. It was pathetic.
 
JJacket said:
They run that stupid wildcat where a RB takes the snap and tries to find somewhere to run. I'm also not talking about a pistol RPO. I am talking pure option. Either a 3-O, wing T, wishbone. Change the blocking assignments.

If we were to catch a team in our dreaded 3-3-5 alignment, they would look silly. We run some 3-O, wishbone, wing T, until they adjust then we go back to a pro set.
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It seems like it takes a lot of practice to do it well - I see teams run a lot of ugly option plays. I wonder how we were able to pull it off with Joe Ham and Fridge.

JRjr
 
JJacket said:
They run that stupid wildcat where a RB takes the snap and tries to find somewhere to run. I'm also not talking about a pistol RPO. I am talking pure option. Either a 3-O, wing T, wishbone. Change the blocking assignments.

If we were to catch a team in our dreaded 3-3-5 alignment, they would look silly. We run some 3-O, wishbone, wing T, until they adjust then we go back to a pro set.
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Plenty of teams run zone reads, speed options, power read, even the triple with their actual QB. It’s just out of the shotgun.
 
For those even remotely thinking next year is going to be better, take a look at next years schedule. Aside from Western Carolina, we Ole Miss, Georgia, and Central Florida. In conference, we pick up Florida State on the road, and also go away to UNC, Virginia Tech and Pitt. Duke likely to have a new head coach and might improve a bit. Based on where our team is now, a massive rebuild looks like we would be starting over like year one. As an added note, these are scheduled years in advance but whoever thought is was a good idea to schedule games like Central Fla and Ole Miss needs to a talking to.
 
vapspwi said:
It seems like it takes a lot of practice to do it well - I see teams run a lot of ugly option plays. I wonder how we were able to pull it off with Joe Ham and Fridge.

JRjr
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We didn’t have to run it perfect it was just one tool in a gigantic tool belt.

Its not like your going to spend a week prepping for 3O plays when we could come out four wide and carve you up with a Heisman quality QB and multiple elite college WRs.
 
The Wasp said:
For those even remotely thinking next year is going to be better, take a look at next years schedule. Aside from Western Carolina, we Ole Miss, Georgia, and Central Florida. In conference, we pick up Florida State on the road, and also go away to UNC, Virginia Tech and Pitt. Duke likely to have a new head coach and might improve a bit. Based on where our team is now, a massive rebuild looks like we would be starting over like year one. As an added note, these are scheduled years in advance but whoever thought is was a good idea to schedule games like Central Fla and Ole Miss needs to a talking to.
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The Coastal sucks. UVA and Pitt lose about their entire offense. UNC loses Howell. VT should be better. Duke - who cares.

Florida State is mediocre. UCF is mediocre. Ole Miss without their Heisman contender QB will be mediocre. Who knows what Clemson will be?

A slightly above average team wins the Coastal. No excuse for not making a bowl next year. No excuse this year either.
 
vapspwi said:
It seems like it takes a lot of practice to do it well - I see teams run a lot of ugly option plays. I wonder how we were able to pull it off with Joe Ham and Fridge.

JRjr
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It's because his play script wasn't huge. We'd just run those limited # of plays out of a million formations.
 
The Wasp said:
For those even remotely thinking next year is going to be better, take a look at next years schedule. Aside from Western Carolina, we Ole Miss, Georgia, and Central Florida. In conference, we pick up Florida State on the road, and also go away to UNC, Virginia Tech and Pitt. Duke likely to have a new head coach and might improve a bit. Based on where our team is now, a massive rebuild looks like we would be starting over like year one. As an added note, these are scheduled years in advance but whoever thought is was a good idea to schedule games like Central Fla and Ole Miss needs to a talking to.
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We beat UCF, Olé Miss, and W Carolina, VT, Pitt, UNC, Miami, UVA.

I'm confident about those 8 Games barring major injuries.

Actually we should be scheduling tougher Games than UCF and Olé Miss.

Unfortunately, we play in the ACC and GT FB has to be "an Event" to attract similar attention to other Programs nearby
 
PressManCoverage said:
We beat UCF, Olé Miss, and W Carolina, VT, Pitt, UNC, Miami, UVA.

I'm confident about those 8 Games barring major injuries.

Actually we should be scheduling tougher Games than UCF and Olé Miss.

Unfortunately, we play in the ACC and GT FB has to be "an Event" to attract similar attention to other Programs nearby
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Not unless our OL is significantly better and we find a defense in the offseason
 
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