Expansion Rumors…

From the State blog:
Parking Meter said... (original post)
$.10 per subscriber for BTN in areas where there isn't a B1G school, $1 per subscriber where there is a B1G school. That's how we ended up with Rutgers and Maryland. (I might be off a little on the numbers.)
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Those are correct and Georgia has over 4 million subscribers on cable/dish/ota. That's 3.6 million a month just for the increase in fees.


This is why we would get a Big Ten offer
 
TampaBayJacket said:
Yeah, this is what is so short sighted by the SEC and now B1G. They need these other teams and leagues for the greater benefit of all and it's what makes college football a spectacle, not just a game of the century (which will now happen multiple times weekly, apparently). It's the crazy variety that makes it special. The Power Two are literally going to kill the golden goose, or what was still alive of it after NIL all but killed it off already.
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Actually CFB has been boring and predictable starting with year 2 of the CFP. It’s Bama, tOSU, Clemson, OU, UGA, ND in some order in the CFP sprinkled in with the random Wisky, Washington, etc.

Lets see what this year will be…..Alabama, tOSU and 2 others. NC game Alabama vs tOSU.

What the new SEC & B1G are essentially doing is bringing the regular season back in focus. More than likely the NC game will be the winners of the 2 leagues after playing a 4 team conference Playoff. SEC 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3, B1G 1 vs 4, 2 vs 3. Winners will play the conference championship game, followed by the NC game.
 
MidnightJacket said:
I think the more appropriate point to be made is decisions on conference affiliation and a GT invite I would think will be based on more than the superficial metric of how much interest there currently is in GT football based on the current head coach. It doesn’t help to be pitching ourselves given the current state of the program, but it’s probably akin to giving a car a good wash before selling it at the dealership.

That said, I made a point on another board that GT could secure their spot tomorrow if leadership came out proposing academic and financial support similar to what Miami did, promising dedication to reviving the program to its historically strong status. That would be worth far more than the current guy coaching the team.
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I completely agree! FWIW that type of support would have bought him out last year!
 
The Champ said:
Cant imagine Clemson would want to fly to Vegas to jeopardize their CFP hopes in a good year either.
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In this scenario Clemson would be in the ACC which means they aren't going to be invited to the SEC v BIG National Championship Game. ACC v PAC-12 would be the equivalent of the NIT.
 
00Burdell said:
I cannot disagree more. GT people believed Curry and they believed in Ross. Not sure what you mean by “you know it.”

Not sure if you were here during the Curry years but he instilled confidence - I was at every home game he coached and met him several times. I actually didn’t care for him personally but he was an All-American center for Dodd and hated losing more than any fan and that was obvious. He almost beat the dwags in 83 and decisively in 84 and in a razor thin margin game in 85. Enough for Bama to hire him.

I really don’t want to demean our current coach but even with Curry’s obvious deficiencies, he and Ross were light years ahead of Collins. Don’t even go there.

I support Collins (with conditions)- Curry would meet with Dodd after every game for a Master-Student meeting. Not everyone knows that. Ross didn’t need such meetings - he was already a Master. I spoke to Curry recruits that played for Ross and they hated Ross’ style for 87 and 88 but they came around and got on board and the rest is history.

So don’t act like you can take me to school about those two. I was there and on the inside.

I want CGC to be successful as much or more than any Tech fan but the hill is a lot steeper for Collins. Not entirely by his shortcomings but his shortcomings are not irrelevant.
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And I disagree with you. NOBODY I knew wanted Curry to begin with, and we were all glad when he left, in spite of the few significant victories he had in his later years. He was no Collins, because he knew how to, and wanted to, kiss up to the fans. But overall, he was still a terrible coach. Ross was accorded a lot of support at first, but after his first two years, he started losing it. Then 1989 and 1990 came along. I don't foresee anywhere near the same with Collins.
 
LibertyJacket said:
In this scenario Clemson would be in the ACC which means they aren't going to be invited to the SEC v BIG National Championship Game. ACC v PAC-12 would be the equivalent of the NIT.
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And not one of those teams would care
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
And I disagree with you. NOBODY I knew wanted Curry to begin with, and we were all glad when he left, in spite of the few significant victories he had in his later years. He was no Collins, because he knew how to, and wanted to, kiss up to the fans. But overall, he was still a terrible coach. Ross was accorded a lot of support at first, but after his first two years, he started losing it. Then 1989 and 1990 came along. I don't foresee anywhere near the same with Collins.
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Curry took the worst program in D1 and nearly beat the dwags in 83 then stomped them in 84 and again in 85. He was “this close” to three in a row. And you want to call him a terrible coach? Dodd told him to take the Bama job - Dodd said he’d never win an MNC at GT.

I had a lot of issues with Curry but to say that nobody wanted him and that everybody was glad when he left is nuts. There are people on this very board who are still butthurt that he left for Bama.
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
And I disagree with you. NOBODY I knew wanted Curry to begin with, and we were all glad when he left, in spite of the few significant victories he had in his later years. He was no Collins, because he knew how to, and wanted to, kiss up to the fans. But overall, he was still a terrible coach. Ross was accorded a lot of support at first, but after his first two years, he started losing it. Then 1989 and 1990 came along. I don't foresee anywhere near the same with Collins.
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In my opinion, Coach Curry had to learn on the job, but he became a very good coach. He beat Georgia. He beat Alabama in Birmingham, when they were ranked number one or two and when Bear Bryant was going for the all time wins record. He tied a very good Tennessee team in Knoxville, and beat the Vols in Atlanta. He tied number one Notre Dame. Coach Ross was one of the best football coaches ever. His third season he beat Clemson and Georgia. His fourth season, of course, he won the national championship. So, Coach Curry and Coach Ross established themselves and proved themselves. They were strong representatives of Tech, too. They are heroes of mine. I was sorry when Coach Curry left for Alabama, and I was sorry when Coach Ross left for the San Diego Chargers. I was blessed to be acquainted with both of them, and they were even better people than they were coaches.
 
CiraldoForever said:
In my opinion, Coach Curry had to learn on the job, but he became a very good coach. He beat Georgia. He beat Alabama in Birmingham, when they were ranked number one or two and when Bear Bryant was going for the all time wins record. He tied a very good Tennessee team in Knoxville, and beat the Vols in Atlanta. He tied number one Notre Dame. Coach Ross was one of the best football coaches ever. His third season he beat Clemson and Georgia. His fourth season, of course, he won the national championship. So, Coach Curry and Coach Ross established themselves and proved themselves. They were strong representatives of Tech, too. They are heroes of mine. I was sorry when Coach Curry left for Alabama, and I was sorry when Coach Ross left for the San Diego Chargers. I was blessed to be acquainted with both of them, and they were even better people than they were coaches.
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I didn't mean to denigrate Ross. He is a legend, as far as I am concerned. But he did get off to a very rough start, although once he had the players he needed, he definitely turned it up a lot. Curry, however, had one very good season, 2 so-so seasons, and the rest bad seasons. I don't doubt that either of them were and are good men and good representatives for Tech, but I just never liked Curry, and I was glad that he left. To top everything else, he got full of himself and deserted Tech for Bama, where he was never liked either.
 
SI: ACC, Pac-12 Discussing ESPN TV Partnership After Big Ten’s Moves
Looks like ESPN “Might” be stepping up for the ACC ... Interesting ... and a Revenue Boost for the ACC and Pac 12 ... From Sports Illustrated:

Officials from the ACC and Pac-12 are discussing a broadcasting partnership with ESPN that would bring together the two Power 5 leagues from opposite coasts for a mutually beneficial relationship, sources tell Sports Illustrated.

The proposal, still in its infancy, heavily involves the ESPN-owned ACC Network. Under the plan, the ACC Network—or a renamed entity combining the two leagues—will have exclusive rights to broadcast Pac-12 games to West Coast households through ESPN cable providers. The agreement is not a merger or consolidation of the leagues but is instead built around a media rights agreement with the worldwide leader in sports—an effort to clap back at the Pac-12’s loss of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten.

While the joint move could feature marquee nonconference matchups from the West and East Coasts—think Clemson-Washington or Miami-Oregon—the primary reason behind the partnership is the TV property. This would replace the failed Pac-12 Network with a reliable provider that can reach millions of homes out west.

The potential agreement could conceivably benefit all involved: The ACC is expected to receive long-sought additional television revenue; ESPN gets a piece of Pac-12 inventory; and the Pac-12 presumably stays intact, with its 10 remaining members getting an attractive TV arrangement. It might also be a more desirable alternative for Pac-12 schools than looking to join the Big 12. At least one Pac-12 source disputed reports of “serious” talks between some remaining schools and the Big 12.

www.si.com

ACC, Pac 12 discussing ESPN TV partnership - Sports Illustrated

The proposal between the leagues comes after the Big Ten’s addition of USC and UCLA.
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ACC, PAC 10 and Big 12 should renegotiate a new media package, only play one another, and schedule their own championship playoff system.
 
CornerBlitz said:
I went to both Auburn games in the early 2000s and the Tennessee game at MB. All great experiences and hype games. I thought both sets of fans enjoyed playing Tech again as well.
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Auburn fans and, for the most part, Tennessee fans were always good and very Tech-friendly, in spite of the rivalries. Neither of them were anything at all like mutt fans.
 
JJacket said:
You sure are angry, for some reason. Yes, you're correct. I know of one old, angry old man who feels that way. As for the French I work with, they aren't full of the old man hostility, anger, and bitterness you carry.
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00Burdell said:
Curry took the worst program in D1 and nearly beat the dwags in 83 then stomped them in 84 and again in 85. He was “this close” to three in a row. And you want to call him a terrible coach? Dodd told him to take the Bama job - Dodd said he’d never win an MNC at GT.

I had a lot of issues with Curry but to say that nobody wanted him and that everybody was glad when he left is nuts. There are people on this very board who are still butthurt that he left for Bama.
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Turns out he'd never win an MNC at Bama, either.

But his replacement won one at GT. :lol:

Hmm.

I was at Tech when they hired Bill Curry. He was the Ken Whisenhut of 1980. I don't know too many people who were too excited about him - at least the first five years. I have no opinion on whether or not he was a "good man" but we should be realistic about him as a coach. He had a losing record at Tech, made ONE bowl game in seven years, tied with Furman (!) his final season, and really had only one good season. Coached seven years an Kentucky without one winning season. The only place he ever won was at Bama , , , and they fired him. His lifetime record was 93–128–4. Any way you want to cut it, that is not good.

And FTR, claiming that "Curry took the worst program in D1" should earn the poster a permaban for asstardedness. Two years before Curry, Tech had a winning record and played in the Peach Bowl. Four years after Curry, Tech won a MNC. Tech was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from "the worst program in D1." Maybe they just had one of the worst coaches in D1.
 
1982Jacket said:
Turns out he'd never win an MNC at Bama, either.

But his replacement won one at GT. :lol:

Hmm.

I was at Tech when they hired Bill Curry. He was the Ken Whisenhut of 1980. I don't know too many people who were too excited about him - at least the first five years. I have no opinion on whether or not he was a "good man" but we should be realistic about him as a coach. He had a losing record at Tech, made ONE bowl game in seven years, tied with Furman (!) his final season, and really had only one good season. Coached seven years an Kentucky without one winning season. The only place he ever won was at Bama , , , and they fired him. His lifetime record was 93–128–4. Any way you want to cut it, that is not good.

And FTR, claiming that "Curry took the worst program in D1" should earn the poster a permaban for asstardedness. Two years before Curry, Tech had a winning record and played in the Peach Bowl. Four years after Curry, Tech won a MNC. Tech was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from "the worst program in D1." Maybe they just had one of the worst coaches in D1.
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How faaaar from the worst do you have to be, to be considered for closure as a program?
 
00Burdell said:
Curry took the worst program in D1 and nearly beat the dwags in 83 then stomped them in 84 and again in 85. He was “this close” to three in a row. And you want to call him a terrible coach? Dodd told him to take the Bama job - Dodd said he’d never win an MNC at GT.

I had a lot of issues with Curry but to say that nobody wanted him and that everybody was glad when he left is nuts. There are people on this very board who are still butthurt that he left for Bama.
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I think it worked out well in the end. Dodd was right Curry was never going to win a NC at GT. Curry leaving got us the 1990 NC. I don't blame Curry at all for leaving and like you said while glad he won a few big games and restored the program to respectability I was glad he was gone.
 
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