Expansion Rumors…

[WracerX]

I don’t like the pod system the acc created. It does nothing to solve the primary problem, a lack of good games.

The acc should have gone to a relegation system. Take the top 7 teams and have their play a round robin. Take the top two teams for the acccg.

The bottom 7 aren’t allowed in the acccg. Bring up the top two bottom teams and drop the bottom two upper level teams each year.

Make ND play only from the bottom 7. That should torpedo any chance they have at the playoffs. It also guarantees they will be one of the acc bowl teams to be picked from. If they want a chance at the playoffs, they will have to join the acc.

 

[THWG247]

Conference death type 1 (Big12)
1. Conference falls behind in revenue
2. Conference goes to unequal revenue model
3. Conference upper mid properties bolt to greener pastures since they will fall behind in their own conference
4. Upper mid programs replaced with lower mid programs
5. Upper level programs lose money due to crappy conference
6. Upper level programs leave

Conference death type 2 (big east/PAC)
1. conference falls behind in revenue
2. Conference maintains equal rev distribution
3. Upper level teams leave
4. Upper level teams replaced with lower mid teams
5. Revenue falls further
6. Conference absorbed/merges with lower level conference

The acc hopes that the gor will prevent teams from leaving. But there is no reason for the upper mid teams to agree to unequal revenue without getting back the gor. There is no reason for the low value programs to accept unequal revenue so long as the gor exist.

Do the lower value teams HAVE to accept it or can the UNC mafia shove it down everyone’s thought?

 

[clapper]

I don’t like the pod system the acc created. It does nothing to solve the primary problem, a lack of good games.

The acc should have gone to a relegation system. Take the top 7 teams and have their play a round robin. Take the top two teams for the acccg.

The bottom 7 aren’t allowed in the acccg. Bring up the top two bottom teams and drop the bottom two upper level teams each year.

Make ND play only from the bottom 7. That should torpedo any chance they have at the playoffs. It also guarantees they will be one of the acc bowl teams to be picked from. If they want a chance at the playoffs, they will have to join the acc.

Instead of dropping/raising the teams, give them play-in games against each other on the same weekend as the championship game.

 

[JJacket]

And the quickest way to kill any conference.

It has killed rock bands for years

 

[aeromech]

Jump to WHERE????

Jump onboard the unequal revenue sharing plan. Help UNC and FSU get it passed (you need I'm guessing 8 schools to pass it) and then after it passes use 'the unequal revenue sharing policy' as the reason to invalidate the GOR.

 

[aeromech]

I don’t like the pod system the acc created. It does nothing to solve the primary problem, a lack of good games.

The acc should have gone to a relegation system. Take the top 7 teams and have their play a round robin. Take the top two teams for the acccg.

The bottom 7 aren’t allowed in the acccg. Bring up the top two bottom teams and drop the bottom two upper level teams each year.

Make ND play only from the bottom 7. That should torpedo any chance they have at the playoffs. It also guarantees they will be one of the acc bowl teams to be picked from. If they want a chance at the playoffs, they will have to join the acc.

This sounds like a terrible idea. Having your top 7 teams beating each other down in the rankings all season helps no one. Having some sort of Div. II contingent in your conference that shares revenue evenly is bizarre. You would probably see ND packing their bags and going elsewhere. You could easily end up with a top 15 ranked undefeated in conference team that is barred from the championship game while your "Conference Championship" game features a 2 loss team vs a 3 loss team neither of which are top 20.

 

[THWG247]

This sounds like a terrible idea. Having your top 7 teams beating each other down in the rankings all season helps no one. Having some sort of Div. II contingent in your conference that shares revenue evenly is bizarre. You would probably see ND packing their bags and going elsewhere. You could easily end up with a top 15 ranked undefeated in conference team that is barred from the championship game while your "Conference Championship" game features a 2 loss team vs a 3 loss team neither of which are top 20.

It’s terrible ideas all the way down from here on out

 

[WracerX]

Do the lower value teams HAVE to accept it or can the UNC mafia shove it down everyone’s thought?

I’m not sure the mafia will hold. There are really 5 tobacco road schools. Uva is just as invested in the acc as the nc schools. But of those five,

This sounds like a terrible idea. Having your top 7 teams beating each other down in the rankings all season helps no one. Having some sort of Div. II contingent in your conference that shares revenue evenly is bizarre. You would probably see ND packing their bags and going elsewhere. You could easily end up with a top 15 ranked undefeated in conference team that is barred from the championship game while your "Conference Championship" game features a 2 loss team vs a 3 loss team neither of which are top 20.

ND is tied up just like everyone else. They would have to wait until 2035.

Yes, you could end up with a team that beat all of the low end teams, but I doubt they would get ranked much higher than 20.

 

[Tampa Jacket]

Oh great, with the resurrection of this thread we get 10 more pages of crybabies whining about being in the Big 10.

It would help our program recruit, retain, and win.

 

[aeromech]

I’m not sure the mafia will hold. There are really 5 tobacco road schools. Uva is just as invested in the acc as the nc schools. But of those five,


ND is tied up just like everyone else. They would have to wait until 2035.

Yes, you could end up with a team that beat all of the low end teams, but I doubt they would get ranked much higher than 20.

I think you are wrong about ND being tied up with the GOR; but even if you are right your plan would be their exit card. No way ND stays around to play in our losers bracket. Thinking they would is just doubling down on dumb. Your plan is simply ignorant, a senior laden team that does well moves up right after the upper classmen leave, that doesn't make any sense. Teams that are moving down to the loser bracket become feeding grounds for the portal. I don't think you've considered how this all plays out.

 

[WracerX]

I think you are wrong about ND being tied up with the GOR; but even if you are right your plan would be their exit card. No way ND stays around to play in our losers bracket. Thinking they would is just doubling down on dumb. Your plan is simply ignorant, a senior laden team that does well moves up right after the upper classmen leave, that doesn't make any sense. Teams that are moving down to the loser bracket become feeding grounds for the portal. I don't think you've considered how this all plays out.

I am kicking around ideas, so there are definitely holes. But the pod system is something the ACC is implementing and it doesn’t solve our basic problem, which is bad games. UNC might want to play the NC round robin, but that is ööööty tv. Fsu-cuse is ööööty tv 9 out of 10 years. Wvu would have drawn more interest than any game bc or cuse play in.

As for ND, they are stuck with us for all non fb sports. The acc has been way to accommodating to them. They should never draw any top tier team at home. The nbc games should be duke, wake, bc, uva, or cuse.

 

[Buzzkill1974]

Unequal revenue sharing is not going to happen. Pipe dream by those schools.

I don’t believe they expect it to happen…just an excuse to rock the boat.

 

[MidnightJacket]

I don’t believe they expect it to happen…just an excuse to rock the boat.

 

[Buzzilla]

Link to Dennis Dodd article:
Does Florida State or any ACC power actually have options? Revenue gap concerns threaten to split league

"We have to do something because we're a brand. We're a very important brand, and we drive the media value in this conference," Alford told the FSU board of trustees in a Friday meeting streamed on YouTube.

If I were the commish of the ACC I'd tell FSU to pound sand and if they really want to leave, "don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you."

Meanwhile, Disney stock has been cut in half in the last 2 years. The broadcast rights gravy train is going off the rails. If I were ESPN/Disney, (and God knows I would never associate with either cesspool), I'd draw up a buyout for the ACC deal and let this clown conference go. Let's see how much media value that nursing school has when the market buyers dry up.

How many teams are in the SEC right now? Like 35? How many ways do they think they can carve up that bloated pie?

This is, in my opinion, the very definition of overplaying your hand. None of this is going to end well.

 

[CiraldoForever]

I can understand Clemson and FSU. UNC can suck balls. They haven't won the ACC since 1982

I would rather see Tech join the Big 12 or any other conference than to stay in the ACC if it does unequal distribution. Let FSU, Clemson and UNC go. I think the Big 10 would rather have Tech than any of them, and I think the SEC has no need for any of them. If the ACC caves in to these three, then the ACC should be over. Clemson, FSU and UNC have a wildly exalted opinion of themselves and their value.

 

[WracerX]

I would rather see Tech join the Big 12 or any other conference than to stay in the ACC if it does unequal distribution. Let FSU, Clemson and UNC go. I think the Big 10 would rather have Tech than any of them, and I think the SEC has no need for any of them. If the ACC caves in to these three, then the ACC should be over. Clemson, FSU and UNC have a wildly exalted opinion of themselves and their value.

UNC could join the B1G or SEC tomorrow. FSU/Clemson don’t have either of those options. FSU could maybe make the SEC because they have a lot of influence in a big state.

 

[CiraldoForever]

Regional Sports Networks are in trouble. Many games for Tech had limited, hard to find coverage last year. Don't know how it will be impacted going forward with these developments. Watch the video linked below for more info.

The Death of the Regional Sports Network:

Bally's Sports preparing for bankruptcy. Article linked below.

As Bally Sports Prepares for Bankruptcy, We Explain Why

The sounds of bubbles popping.
Meanwhile Clemson, FSU and UNC are setting fires to bridges.

I would have no way to know if Bally's sports went bankrupt, since I have never even been able to confirm that it exists. I have had to lump it in with UFOs, Sasquatch and the Easter Bunny. I think we should switch the games they claim are on Bally's sports and put them on the History Channel right after "The Curse of Oak Island."

 

[ScionOfSouthland]

I think the SEC is still trying to stay regional… would not be surprised to see them pick up FSU, Clemson, UNC, and/or Virginia. UNC and Virginia could easily go to with the BIG, too.

 

[Diseqc]

yeah, I wouldn’t give FSU one extra ööööing cent. They can leave if they want. There’s an exit fee and we still own your tv rights till 2035. Bye.

 

[WracerX]

I think the SEC is still trying to stay regional… would not be surprised to see them pick up FSU, Clemson, UNC, and/or Virginia. UNC and Virginia could easily go to with the BIG, too.

Clemson adds very little to the sec unless they could boot SC. FSU would probably be a maybe. They have a large fanbase in a big state. But the sec already has a presence there.

UNC and uva would add new territory (or VT).

Honestly, I’m waiting for a conference to boot someone. The sec could easily lose Vandy and MSU and increase the payout per school.