wesleyd21
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See.Curry was 2-19-1 his first two years with what Pepper left him from the wishbone.
know your history people!
See.Curry was 2-19-1 his first two years with what Pepper left him from the wishbone.
Actually, it is not that simple. Pepper went away from the bone for a year, so it was softer in an era when the differences in offense were not so stark.Curry was 2-19-1 his first two years with what Pepper left him from the wishbone.
The surprising thing is the volume of guys in their last year not the record.
Gailey for comparison:
- faced 9 coaches in their first year (1.5 per year). He was 6-3 against them.
- faced 5 coaches in their last year (.7 per year). He was 5-0 against them.
33-29 against coaches in that in between state.
Johnson was facing twice as many teams in that transitional state a year as Gailey did before him.
Some of us actually want to do better than CPJ or Chan or Ross or Curry.
I really think O'Leary would have gotten us there. It is a damn shame Notre Dame ööööed us over by hiring him away.
He did demonstrate what his methods were capable of achieving at UCF.I think O'Leary could have done it too. But after Ralph left, he looked mortal.
He did demonstrate what his methods were capable of achieving at UCF.
Easier school, one of the largest enrollments in the nation, but it would be like building Kennesaw State into a FBS team capable of beating UGAg and Auburn. I think he beat Oklahoma too, iircYeah, UCF was a different job than Tech. He laid the foundation down there pretty solid.
Three of those were Richt. Got Dabo and Cut in yr 1. UNC coaches coming and going twice. Uva x2.
Pitt had about 100 coaches.
Well that is the point. Our opposition was employing a bunch of has-beens and busts. Jimbo, Dabo, and Great Clips being the exceptions.
Don’t forget the asterisk: 4 of those wins were with players Gailey recruited.Paul Johnson was 7-4 against Duke. If it were a season he'd go to a decent bowl.
Ah, I see.Don’t forget the asterisk: 4 of those wins were with players Gailey recruited.
Ah, I see.
We can't count wins for CPJ because they weren't "his players", and we can't count losses for CGC because they weren't "his players".
This is quite a setup we've got going on here.
How about we just say you are what your record says you are?
You obviously want to ignore the bounty Gailey/Smith/Collìns handed Johnson anď ignore the Bad News Bears that Johnsòn handed Collins but it is real and significant. But it does not fit your agenda.Ah, I see.
We can't count wins for CPJ because they weren't "his players", and we can't count losses for CGC because they weren't "his players".
This is quite a setup we've got going on here.
How about we just say you are what your record says you are?
The “your players” excuse is out the window year three.
Johnson went .500ish year three and he was a .500ish kind of coach. If Collins doesn’t have a winning record this year he’ll probably be a losing coach.
What is the Pee Wee Herman arguement?This is a hilarious thread, with many people using the Pee Wee Herman argument.
What is the Pee Wee Herman arguement?
Ahhh. Was hoping it was something about getting ones jollies off in a porno theater.I know you are but what am I?
That’s how it usually ends.Ahhh. Was hoping it was something about getting ones jollies off in a porno theater.